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 Posted: Thu May 19th, 2005 09:14 pm
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Good take for those of you that have become recently single.


MY DATE LAST NIGHT —- OMG GUYS READ THIS - 32

When I did my taxes this year I found out that I spent over $14,000 on Dates last year. Most of that was spent on dinner and drinks in Manhattan. Now don’t get me wrong, I had some very good times, some great sex, some good conversations. Hell, I even made a good friend along the way, but mainly I came away from the date feeling extremely disappointed and with a lighter wallet. Date by date it’s not THAT much money but it all adds up fast!

In the past I had a habit of always grabbing the check and paying whether my date was hot or not. Whether we clicked or not. Basically I felt ashamed to let her pay. I also kept and interesting statistic and even I was suprised that only 5% of my dates even offered to pay - yes you see that right- 5%! One girl in the entire year offered to pay for the entire check. A very nice gesture. But of course I paid and doubt she was sincere. In light of all this evidence I knew I had
to change some things. So, this year…..

I DECIDED TO NEVER PAY FOR A FIRST DATE AGAIN. How did I do this? First I adopted the mindset that a girl should naturally assume she’s paying for herself. Now this wasn’t easy at first but I quickly got used to it. Then when going into the bar/restuarant/lounge etc. I would hand the server a credit card and ask them to open tabs for us.
HEY!-Did you catch that? I said ‘TABS.’ Yah, don’t worry atleast 95% of the girls I meet miss that one too. Just to make sure I usually confirm that the server has understood me too. I do this when the date rudely answers her cell phone or is in the bathroom (probably using her cell phone). Guys, youknow the Mastercard “priceless” series of commercials? Well, let me tell you, you won’t understand the meaning of ‘priceless’ until you see one of these girls handed their own check for 3 20$ martinis and overpriced food (that they would probably never buy on their own). It’s also very relaxing to
encourage the girl to eat and drink up because even at 20$ a pop for exotic gooey blender drinks I could care less how many of them she has - cause SHE’S PAYING.

Oddly enough when she realizes that there are individual bills there will a few prolonged moments of discomfort. But don’t panic. Something that took me by surprise is how many girls suddenly have to ‘go to an ATM’. I can’t quite figure out if it’s because their cc’s are maxed out on shoe purchases or that they are trying to guilt me into paying.Well, probably a combination of both, but I’m remorseless after doing this for nearly 3 months now. Which brings me to my date last night…… omg…..


Of course the classy nice Irish pub I suggested wasn’t good enough for her. Nah…she needed to to go somewhere more trendy. Ok, no problem. W? Hudson? Meatpacking Dist? SoHo? Where we going? So she picks a midtown hotel bar. Nice place. Little stuffy. Drinks, not bad and Macadamia nuts on the lounge tables (complimentary) nice! Of course I went thru my usual routine, handed the server a credit card asked her if we can start tabs she said, ‘sure’ and took the card. 1 drink in her cell phone rang. She appoligized, (she had to get it). So I moved into confirmation mode. Our waitress even missed the ‘tabs’ part but she adjusted on the fly and told me no problem. Boy, let me tell you - the girl i was with could really throw down the drinks. She was drinking scotch that was older than the hotel we were in. Of course I encouraged her the whole way.


She was like, wow they have Johny Walker BLUE label! I was like, ‘you ever try it?’ She’s like….’Nooooooo!!!’


I’m like, ‘go on….just get some’. She’s like ‘are you sure’. I’m like, ‘look, if you want it, just get it!’ So she ordered one, then another, and finally one more….. wow she was probably more than a little drunk. I stuck to my Stoli and Soda, splash of Cran.


When the BILL(S) came she sobered up fast. I caught a glimpse of hers, 5 drinks plus a little finger food $319.00 I think it was. She looked shocked and sick to her stomache when she saw 2 bills. Guess she thought I was buying. Think again. (The old me woulda soaked up the bill but steared her away from the Blue) I had 4 drinks, no food and a great buzz. Pricey Stoli, but overall still a good value (i ate a ton of free macadamias and almonds) $36.00. D*mn I thought, that BLUE label will get you every time. Of course she did more than
the traditional fumble through her purse. Her face was beat red and she was speechless. She left the bill on the table and excused herself for the restroom.


I had already paid and was sucking on some ice. The waitress was looking concerned. I told her, ‘look’. Sure enough my date was heading out toward the front door. I slowly grabbed my coat as the waitress ran after her. Then security or a bellman grabbed her at the door and a small shouting match ensued. Can you imagine, she wastrying to leave - without paying!

Well, I didn’t stick around to see what happened. All I saw was the poor waitress standing just inside the front door with a small coctail tray. She did look concerned but not paniced. A doorman and bell hop had the girl by the arm, outside and was semi-forcing her back inside, she wasn’t getting away from this bill. I paid my bill. I had my receipt. But I couldn’t help wondering why she ordered 3
Johnny Walker Blues, doesn’t she know that stuff is expensive? Then I wondered if they had to arrest her while I had another drink at my local Irish pub.

I haven’t heard from her again. Too bad, she was pretty cute too :(


http://www.gawker.com/news/culture/cheap-date-takes-on-whole-new-meaning-at-midtown-hotel-bar-104144.php



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 Posted: Thu May 19th, 2005 09:22 pm
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omg I actualy had that happen to me!
Although, it was the other way around. He asked me out to dinner after work. We just went to Perkins, but I know to always have money on me for myself. Don't need him "expecting" anything afterwards for paying if you know what I mean ;)
I asked for two seperate bills. His mouth dropped. So we both go up there, I pay for my food and his credit card gets declined. omfg it was hilarious! If it was someone I never had to see again, I would have left him stranded, but he was a coworker so I paid for him.
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 Posted: Thu May 19th, 2005 10:44 pm
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;up Nice one

That should teach her. But it probably didn't. She's probably still washing dishes because she never even had a job to pay even a penny of the bill.



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 Posted: Thu May 19th, 2005 10:51 pm
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Now that's something I'll have to consider in the future. LMFAO! It would be worth it find a goldigger that you know to be a real ***** and do this to her. But what goes around comes around, you'd need to live in a large city for this to be a viable practice, in a small town, you'd never get any after the first time you did that. Maybe a little honesty would work but some men/women aren't into the honesty gig! Still a halarious story!

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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 03:50 am
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Thats funny. I just date below me so the girls want to pay to get my attentions.



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 05:44 am
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that is cracy!!!!! you go man....that was awesome....but $319.00!!!! for her!!! that's crazy....that's what happens when you try to say something important and the girl doesn't listen......awesome!!!



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 06:07 am
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It's about time. Us men need to stop paying for everything. Shit gets expensive, ya know!

I'll be amazed if this guy gets laid this year though. So what! We men shouldn't have to pay for (you know what)!



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 12:24 pm
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I dont understand why people want to have so much money spent on dinner and drinks. I'm happy with a free refill cup of coffee or if I want to have spend the big bucks then a McDonalds happy meal.

Yet for some reason I can't ever get a date. How sad am I.



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 12:28 pm
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Codger! You read the book, didn't you?:clap



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 01:40 pm
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bama wrote: I dont understand why people want to have so much money spent on dinner and drinks. I'm happy with a free refill cup of coffee or if I want to have spend the big bucks then a McDonalds happy meal.

Yet for some reason I can't ever get a date. How sad am I.

Wanna go to dinner... If your really nice I'll let you supersize it...;hysterical

 

;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical;hysterical

 

And to add to my reply earlier. I got to thinking and if this guy spent 14K on dates he has to making 3 figures,or close to it. I some way I feel he is being kinda a dink by not telling the girls his first dates are dutch. I'd be broke if I spent $1,400 on dates.

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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 02:03 pm
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I think many/not all women size the man up(no pun guys), buy the car he drives, the clothes he wears and definitely by the way he talks himself up(bragging/boasting). Most women expect for the man to pay on first date, until he say's different, hopefully in advance.:shock:

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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 02:04 pm
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I have to say this didn't make me laugh at all other than to know this guy is pathetic and can't get a good woman.  He obviously has too high standards and picks the high maintenence chicks.

If someone invites me on a date and does not mention that it's "dutch", then I'd expect the person male or female to pick up the tab.  I of course would offer to help pay.

This guys a fink and a jerk.  Hope he dies alone and broke

$14,000 on dates.  That's just pathetic!



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 Posted: Fri May 20th, 2005 07:03 pm
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My last girl, she offered to pay her way all the time, never let me pay for her.  We finally came to an agreement that we would switch off the meals (she pays the tab, I get the next, etc.). 

14k??? Yeah, this guy  is definitely high-rollin some 6-digit figures.  Either that or trying too hard to be a pimp.  Hell, my ideal date at the moment is me and the girl, at home, 6-pack of whatever she wants, with a good movie.  Who knows what happens afterwards :D

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 Posted: Sat May 21st, 2005 12:49 am
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This guy is insane, I mean I guess he mentions it's Dutch because he says "tabs", but c'mon...

And I just did a quick calculation and averaging $319 a date (which, I dunno, to me seems absurd?!) means he went on 44 dates. But seriously, even if you're making 6-figures, spending a FOCUS on dates, sounds crazy IMO. It definitely sounds like he's dating the wrong types of people, high maintenance psycho-types.



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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2005 01:10 am
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lil duratec wrote: This guy is insane, I mean I guess he mentions it's Dutch because he says "tabs", but c'mon...

I agree. IMO, there should have been a clear understanding of who was going to pay what, before any money was spent.

This situation is a dilemma, though. It's hard to argue that generally speaking, the man is expected to pay for dates. I know some of the women on this forum have said they've volunteered to pay, and in fact, have paid. That's all well and good, but IMO, it's certainly the exception.

To cut to the chase, if women and men are truly interested in equality, each side has to start doing some socially unfamiliar things. Men are going to have to start doing more domestically, conversationally, and accept women as equals in the work force. And not only in numbers, but in wages and  positions of power. Women are going to have to take additional risks, (making decisions), paying their way, and taking on more responsibility.

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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2005 01:41 am
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Well said Mr V, and I agree, I think the ladies here are more the exception than the rule. We're pretty cool people, Obviously!:P



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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2005 02:14 am
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trifling bitches



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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2005 12:25 pm
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To cut to the chase, if women and men are truly interested in equality, each side has to start doing some socially unfamiliar things. Men are going to have to start doing more domestically, conversationally, and accept women as equals in the work force. And not only in numbers, but in wages and positions of power. Women are going to have to take additional risks, (making decisions), paying their way, and taking on more responsibility.
Very well said Mr. V - I have to say I agree with you completely, but having said that...In my experiences in relationships prior to my current one I have been the one who makes more money, has the car, pays the bills, incurred the debt and even when I got divorced lost everything because the "man" was a spoiled, whiney brat who couldn't handle my independence.
Very rare that you'll find a man that would step up to the plate in the areas you've mentioned above.  Very commendable to those who do...I know I appreciate it a lot when a man does some domestic things and can talk with me and we're sincerely entertaining each other with basic conversation.  I have that type of a relationship now.  Needless to say I'm very happy. :cool:



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Yes me still single and loving it. Fck yah.



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 Posted: Mon May 23rd, 2005 11:32 am
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Chelly03PZEV wrote:
To cut to the chase, if women and men are truly interested in equality, each side has to start doing some socially unfamiliar things. Men are going to have to start doing more domestically, conversationally, and accept women as equals in the work force. And not only in numbers, but in wages and positions of power. Women are going to have to take additional risks, (making decisions), paying their way, and taking on more responsibility.
Very well said Mr. V - I have to say I agree with you completely, but having said that...In my experiences in relationships prior to my current one I have been the one who makes more money, has the car, pays the bills, incurred the debt and even when I got divorced lost everything because the "man" was a spoiled, whiney brat who couldn't handle my independence.
Very rare that you'll find a man that would step up to the plate in the areas you've mentioned above. Very commendable to those who do...I know I appreciate it a lot when a man does some domestic things and can talk with me and we're sincerely entertaining each other with basic conversation. I have that type of a relationship now. Needless to say I'm very happy. :cool:


This is how it's always been with me too. I've made quite a bit more money than my husband (close to 10 grand more last year) am responsible for the house, for the bills, have the car, take care of the kids (human and dog) etc.
I never really dated too much though, so I can't comment anymore. All I know is that when teh hubby and I go out, the only time he offers to pay is when it is coming out of our joint checking account cuz he knows I have $$ in there.
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