just a continuation of this subject on the old boards so i'm bringing it to the new boards. any info would be fine. i guess i'm just wondering if it would be worth doing if my spi engine were to blow out if i could put the zetec in it. thanks for any info.
I would say it is not worth it. In order to pull off this swap you would basicly need a complete focus with a zetec in it. You would need the engine, tranny, ecu wiring harness, axles, drive shaft. I would be cheaper to trade your car in or sell it and buy a focus with a zetec in it.
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no reason it can't be done. I think what he's saying is that you'd need so much from a donor car you might as well just trade in. Say you can get maybe $5,000 - $6,000 for you spi, I've seen good looking used zetecs for around 8,000. You would just have to make up the difference and there you go. You would have a zetec all ready to go. Or if you think you can do it yourself, you can always keep an eye on ebay and scoop up the parts you would need and just go for it.
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You might as well through a V-6 contour engine in it.. You can find them pretty cheap at a junkyard. If you got the money to do a transplant.. then you should have the money to fix one up. Find one that just bent the frame and the motor is in tact.
you dont need new half shafts for the swap. all the drivetrain parts outside of the tranny are the same. The onl reason this isnt done alot more is because of the PATS. You need the ignition cylander, PATS module, and ECU from the same zetec car. Otherwise you ahve to ge tthe ECU and pats reprogrammed by Ford which is not cheap. If it werent for that, I could swap in the zetec long or short block in one day. Oh yeah, you also need the zetec alternator and Main harness. everything else is the same.
now i see why it isnt done more often, but i'd like more opinions on the other engine options, like the contour v6 and some one said a vw 1.8 would work. but if i were to uuse the v6 id need a whole new tranny im guessing. and also what are the specs on that v6. thanks for any advice guys
I dont know much about the V6 but I have first hand experience with the VW1.8T.
I drove the prototype vehicle and damn is it sweet. It just pulls like crazy from second gear on. The VW motor is great because even though the turbo is small and winds out quickly, the volumetric efficiency of the motor at higher RPMs allows it to keep pulling past the turbo limits. The torque is very flat and just a blast to drive. Plus, you can mate a number of trannys and gears to the engine. I have talked to Jim about this project and he sent me a list of parts I would need to get to make it work. If I find the list I will post it. He had also mentioned to me that for a higher price, he would source the parts for you. I dont know if he is still wants to do that but you could ask. Contact Jim or caleb (COSitsWORTHit) at http://www.dieselgeek.com
TXFO wrote: you dont need new half shafts for the swap. all the drivetrain parts outside of the tranny are the same. The onl reason this isnt done alot more is because of the PATS. You need the ignition cylander, PATS module, and ECU from the same zetec car. Otherwise you ahve to ge tthe ECU and pats reprogrammed by Ford which is not cheap. If it werent for that, I could swap in the zetec long or short block in one day. Oh yeah, you also need the zetec alternator and Main harness. everything else is the same.
I'm just wondering what the PATS is. what does it do, etc.
PATS is Passive Anti-Theft System...each key for the Ford Focus is specifically programmed to work only with that car...so you could cut a new key from that key, and it would open doors, but it still wouldn't start the car...there is a chip inside the key that must be compatible with the ecu in the engine, this is why you'd need to either get the same keys or have to change out more than just the engine, or reprogramming.
okay thats what i thought it was but i just wanted some one to confirm. so basically if i throw a zetec in i'll need the keys from the car it came from then, huh? hmm. sounds like a bunch of little stuff thats expensive.
It would be a PITA but look at your other options;
1.) Trade in your SPI and buy a zetec, then mod it.
2.) Swap in a VW 1.8t motor
3.) Swap in a contour or better yet a svt contour motor.
Those are you 3 main choices. There is a company that has done the svt contour motor swap and it is pretty sweet, I'll look for the name and post it here. The svt contour swap is not to bad because they use the same tranny as the manual focus. I have checked out the 1.8t swap site and that also sounds sweet. I guess it just depends on what you want to spend.
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docinsano wrote: okay thats what i thought it was but i just wanted some one to confirm. so basically if i throw a zetec in i'll need the keys from the car it came from then, huh? hmm. sounds like a bunch of little stuff thats expensive.
If you didnt want to pay for reprogramming, you would need the ECU, keys, PATS module, and ignition cylander from a single car. you could get away with your old lock cylander if you put in the new PATS and taped the key head to the column. Then the PATS would be permenantly disabled.
