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 Posted: Tue Sep 21st, 2004 04:29 pm
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yeah i think im gonna throw in a zetec in about five years or so maybe more maybe less but i need a list of parts i'll need to do it. as for the PATS is there any way i can disable it without the original keys from the zetec?? i think i heard that the diablochip has something like that on it i dunno tho. well any info is appreciated. thanks



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 Posted: Wed Sep 22nd, 2004 01:18 pm
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Ive never found a way to disable it. need to get the computer flashed at the dealer. I bought an early production EECV from focus sport that had pats disabled. I dont know how randy got it but its mine now. 

so far parts list is side mounts, alternator, harness, ECU, idler pulley (if its a crate motor)

if you get from KSGERRY [highly recomended] then I am 90% sure but unverified, that you need a focus zetec oil pan and windage tray. these can be had on ebay for about 30 bucks, I see them all the time.

 

why five years man? by that time duratec will be the king of the focus. (KSGERRY has those too)



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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 05:08 am
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well it depends on the price of stuff. plus im going to school yet so that sucks. but hey, if i save up, who knows?



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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 01:16 pm
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well lets calculate it.

engine 1225 shipped

mounts 25 ebay

MTX-75 - 500 haines motor sports

ECU - 25 ebay (reflash 50 - 100 depending on dealer)

shift assembly, shifter, and cables - 40 from ebay or junkyard

main harness - 200 new, less if used, I may be able to modify the SPI harness. harness is included if you buy from KSGERRY.

alternator, 50 bucks used

starter if you are going from auto to manual or manual to auto.  40 bucks used.

idler pulley (if not included) 5 bucks used

belt - 8 bucks

flex pipe - 40 bucks

about 2000 bucks. not so bad.

 

 



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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 02:14 pm
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I feel like Wal Mart.  Prices dropping as I type!  :D

TXFO,

Check out my ad in the Group buy forum.  Engines and transaxles both on sale!

Regards,

Gerry Dedonis  dedonis@kans.com

Also, a customer in San Antonio ordered and paid for a Zetec engine and is too lazy to pick it up from the Roadway Express terminal!!  Someone named Juan Aguirre living with a Sara Charles at telephone number 210-317-2227.

Raodway Express is sending the engine to auction to pay for storage charges...now at $178.dollars and adding additional costs of $13.70 per day.  I talked to Diana at Roadway and told them this was a scap salvage Zetec engine (gets a better shipping rate with a class C50 code!) and worth a maximum of $500.dollars at most.

Maybe they will sell it to you instead of having it go to auction?  Maybe Juan will sell it to you to recoup some of his money?  The terminal is located at 427 Gembler and the pro tracking code is: 261-130540-0.  Diana's number is 210-222-9961.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 02:44 pm
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wow! I'll call roadway and see if I can pick it up from them. any idea of when it will go to auction?

 

hell, I could go pick that thing up tomorrow!



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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 02:58 pm
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Call Juan, the owner of the engine to see if he will release (sell?) it to you.  Roadway Express indicated they will send it off to auction...today or tomorrow.

Gerry

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I'm waiting to talk to roadway. Diana comes in at 11. Maybe after the clear it for auction they can just sell it to me instead. we'll see.

 

how much does the engine weigh?

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A complete Zetec with flywheel, clutch and pressure plate weighs about 270 pounds.  With the wooden packing crate about 325 pounds.

If you pick up this engine or another Zetec purchased in the future, bring a small trailer or a pick-up.  The terminal will load it for you with their forklift.  If you specify home or business delivery then you will get charged a drop fee as they will come with a box truck and unloading platform-tailgate.

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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 04:41 pm
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yeah, if they let me have it I was gonna come with the explorer. not the best choice but I figure I can hoist it with some help. maybe cut the crate off it.  shit, I lifted the focus ATX by myself once. I'll never do that again but at least I know I can.:D



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 Posted: Thu Sep 23rd, 2004 07:10 pm
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gerry, check your email!:cool:



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 Posted: Fri Oct 1st, 2004 08:51 pm
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well i guess the swap can be done and is fairly reasonble to boot. maybe in a year or two i'll have zetec power.



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do it DO IT



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 Posted: Sat Oct 9th, 2004 07:13 pm
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ok now, heres a tough one, i know the zetec is possible. how bout a duratec? not saying that i'd want one cuz its too new and im a zetec-ey.

oh yeah what would i need if i decided to stay auto and not manual for a while? then change to the manny afterwards



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anyone? anyone?



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 Posted: Fri Oct 15th, 2004 02:44 pm
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duratec is possible. KSGerry has those too. If you want to stay auto I then all you need is the engine, alternator, PS hard line, throttle cable, down pipe, flex pipe, and main harness. However, I think the duratecs use a different bell housing on the trans and use a different mount. Not sure if the duratec flywheel will bolt to the 4f27e. maybe go look at the dealer and see what you can see.

 



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 Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2004 09:01 pm
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so if i do decide to go zetec, how much would the ol' spi be worth then? also a friend of mine asked why i just dont go with a svt zetec? what exactly is the difference between the zetec and svt??



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 Posted: Fri Oct 22nd, 2004 09:23 pm
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about 50 horses....:D

For power I would do either the SVT Zetec or the 2.3 Duratec and get the Mazda3 Duel stage intake. Heck for power and about 8K drop a 302 V8 into it..

If you do a weekly check at some local salvage yards someone is bound to total an 05 ZX4 ST. I have seen a Mach Ed Focus with about 5K miles(or less) on it in a salvage yard once(kid rolled it).



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 Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2004 01:09 am
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I think you could get more money for the spi if you part it out.

 

its all about how deep you want to get into it and how much money you have. SVT engines sell for more money and are harder to come by. the getrag trans is not as good as the MTX-75. the difference in engines is the SVT has a 10:1 compression, dual stage intake manifold, headers, variable valve timing.....more stuff. doing the duratec swap is certainly not impossible but there are less parts you will be able to reuse from the sPI



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 Posted: Sat Oct 23rd, 2004 06:14 pm
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zetec sounds like a good bet to me then



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