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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:55 am
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i am purchasing a set of springs that are 2 in. in front and 1.75 in. in in the rear, will i need a camber kit for the front and rear, or need not worry any tips will be greatly appreciated . :driv 

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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:57 am
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good question I want to know as well.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 01:42 am
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I am not positive here but I beleve I have heard you can go to 2" without the kit but over you would need it.

IMO I would put the kamber kit in any drop over the SVT drop (.5 - 1 inch) to keep everything straight and in allignment. As you drop the car the tires will toe out and you will be driving on the edges of the tires and not the dottoms like you should be. you will have increased tire wear.

 



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 01:48 am
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i appreciate the info fx3 i will put this to good use, thanks:driv 

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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 01:49 am
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I have a 2.25" drop and I didn't get a camber kit. The front aligned ok. The rear...well lets just say that you can see the tires doing this / \ when I drive. I don't get funny wear on my rear tires for some reason though. I would reccomend a camber kit...don't be a hack like me!



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 04:12 am
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The camber kits are pretty cheap, it's a good idea. The cost of the kit is far less than having to buy new tires.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 11:54 am
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I installed the Eibach Sportline kit and chewed 3 sets of tires off the car before I bought a camber kit and fixed the problem, and now I get perfect tire wear.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:09 pm
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Can someone explain the cambers and what exactly they do ?  im curious to know...



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:16 pm
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They are an eccentric (oval kinda) shaped bolt that is used to adjust your alignment so that your tires don't look like this after you lower your car. / \ If you look at the rear wheels on my car you will see that the top of the tire is tucked further inboard than the bottom is. This is negative camber I believe (correct me if I'm wrong).



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:18 pm
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Are there good and bad camber kits to look at, like i was browsing through Bat and saw that they had "adjustable" cambers... that a good route for someone who wants to lower thier car ?



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:21 pm
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I have an Eibach camber kit, and it looks exactly like what they have on BAT.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:39 pm
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How much did you pay? What set up do you have in your car for springs?



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 12:51 pm
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I payed $205 for the Eibach Sportlines and $40 for the camber kit.  It lowered the car 2" in the front and 2.25" in the rear.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 01:02 pm
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you can get the Eibach camber bolt on Tire Rack for $30 bucks for the pair.

/-\ is negative camber

\-/ is positive camber

|-| is neutral camber

a little bit of negative camber is good for handling as it helps when turning in the corner, and stabilizes the rear of the car. Positive camber isn't very beneficial.

Something to think about though. Whether or not you need the rear camber bolt will depend on the state of your factory alignment. Since Ford in it's infinite wisdom made it nearly impossible to adjust any alignment specs in the rear end, you could find yourself anywhere from 0º camber to -2.5º camber from factory. The extreme negative is out of Ford spec and there is a TSB for it ( a revised rear upper control arm, that adds + 1º of camber for a total of -1.5º camber). If you were in the threshold of say -1.5º camber and dropped your car just an inch you might see your alignment being way out of spec, it will depend on where you started when you got the car. Just keep that in mind. Anyone planning agressive drops... 1.5" or more should at least consider getting the bolt since it is a whole lot less expensive than tires are (especially if you have directionals that you can't rotate correctly).

Another tire murderer is Toe, and toe does worse things with more negative camber, and thanks to Ford again, the Toe adjustments are slim to nill. So I would recommend having that looked at, adjusted if possible to as close to zero as you can, and if you have more than .3º of toe in or out, I'd recommend getting the adjustable toe kits, they are more expensive (about 120 bucks) but with some performance tires costing 100+ a peice you'll save yourself the aggravation down the road.



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 02:53 pm
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Man Joe, sounds like you've had some problems with alignment or you like reading all that boring stuff...you sure you want to lower that thing...???



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 Posted: Tue Mar 22nd, 2005 03:18 pm
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When I got my Prokit springs put on (between SVT and Sportline, at about 1.5") I took it into Sears for an alignment and sure enough toe and camber were out of whack. But after doing the alignment all numbers were well within spec, so you only need the camber kit if the drop is extreme enough to offset the camber more than the stock bolt can accomodate.

I do think the rule is usually aorund 2", so N2focus, yours might make it. I'd try installing the kit and bring it in for a an alignment, if thigns work out, cool... if not drop the $40 or whatever so they can get it back to good again.



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 Posted: Wed Mar 23rd, 2005 01:53 am
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thanks lil' d, i more than likely will be doing that this weekend, even spending the extra 40 , thanksagain:driv  

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 Posted: Wed Mar 23rd, 2005 09:21 am
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where can camber kits be purchased?



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I got moine from http://www.newedgeperformance.com



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 Posted: Wed Mar 23rd, 2005 12:40 pm
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tire rack has the eibach ones for $30 bucks for the rear and 117 for the front.



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