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 Posted: Sun Nov 28th, 2004 07:12 pm
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I am new to the site... I have owned my SVT now for 1 year.  I have been talking to some guys about putting a turbo onto my car.  We are now working on building a turbo kit this spring.  We are using a garret t25 turbo and going from there. 

these guys are from mymonte.com.  they have so far put a T3 4 hybrid onto a 3.4L v6.  and he is now running 13's with a 16.5 second car.  if anybody is interested in further developments let me know...and i will be able to give you a step by step intstruction with pictures on how to do this yourself....

any other questions e-mail me at goober_kramer@hotmail.com



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 Posted: Mon Nov 29th, 2004 01:43 pm
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good luck the tuning has been attempted for very very long amounts of time and is not easy because of both the computer and the VVT-i. For the only reliable turbo kit on the market for the SVT check here... http://www.focus-power.com he also has some tuning options. Good luck, and be careful.



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 Posted: Mon Nov 29th, 2004 08:37 pm
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The guys that are doing this are able to tune the computer with no problem...and we have local shops that are able to do the same thing... I will not buy a turbo kit from any company because they truly rip you off... the only real kit that i have found is like $5800... these are friends of mine...and i know that they can get this done... they have done one car that i can think of with vvti ... i will have to get back to you on that one... using cam gears can also help with the tuning... i am not saying that everything is going to go perfectly smooth but these guys also write software for cars... and tuning... but thanks



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 03:59 am
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as long as you know what youa re doing and have the SCT software, you can tune a turbo set up. the hard part is getting a good starting point without doing damage.:cool: why the T25, isnt that a little small?



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 01:30 pm
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from what I know there aren't any cams or cam gears for the SVT are there? Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know. The other major problem with the Focus in general is the fuel system. Trust me if this was easy I think there'd be more kits available on the market. As it is there are really only two, and only one I've heard of doesn't cause many problems and that's for the Zetec engine, I only know of one for the SVT.



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 02:31 pm
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You can buy one adj. cam gear for the svtf and tune the exhaust side.

The svtf is a very tricky car to tune, the only person to tune it right has spent a ton of time working on it.  I'm not saying it cannot be done, but it will take alot of time.  The T25 does seem small, I would look at a T3 super 60 with about a .60 A/R, or the T3/T04.

Well what ever you decide I wish you the best of luck.



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 06:29 pm
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i have been told cams are available. never checked it out because that would be a major bump in race class for me.



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 07:30 pm
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Welcome to the board. If these shops you mention have never tuned a Black Oak Technology type pcm, then you will into problems with proper tuning. The SVT's pcm is not "normal" lol.



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 08:34 pm
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As far as camgears go AEM makes cam gears and under drive pulley kits for the car.. As far as i have been told locally the SVT is not that hard to tune... you can talk to an SVT certified mechanic... usually they will say no but if you have a good relationship with them they will usually help... Why am i going with the t25..well one the focus already has no torgue and is really doggy off the line...I will be attempting to run anywhere between 9 and 12 psi... to obtain this i will have to lower the compression ratio to at least 9.7 : 1... by talking to copper gasket this can be achieved very easily. a t3 is actually a little bit too big... because we are running a turbo on a four cylinder you have to keep the turbulance up on with the exhaust...and a t25 is capable of 25 to 30 psi with out vehicles maybe more like 19 to 23 but still too much anyway... after researching a lot about the focus and the computer that's in the car and listening to the designer of the svt the computer can be tuned to a blown engine. hence the superchargers that are available for the vehicle from jackson racing and from i think (correct me if i'm wrong) vortec. I am a little bit new at this... but i have been doing a lot of research in the past months. it's a pain in the ass...lol...but i think it will be worth it come april...



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 09:33 pm
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<------------------------- designed your ECU.  :cool:



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 Posted: Tue Nov 30th, 2004 09:41 pm
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lol...that looks about right...:worship



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 Posted: Wed Dec 1st, 2004 01:13 pm
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I think we are just giving your warning. The engine management from Jackson Racing and Vortec isn't the greatest on earth and the JR is pretty terrible. The Focus in general is much more difficult to tune than other cars, and the SVT is another layer of complexity above that, I'm not saying it CAN'T be done, I'm just saying it isn't a walk in the park, it's not like a honda where you plug in your laptop and in 30 minutes you've got a tuned car. I still think the t25 is a bit small, you'll probably end up over-spooling it, and as far as low end torque goes, with the kit from focus-power they see very very decent low end torque numbers, and I believe he uses a T3. Regardless, have you thought about added strain on the tranny, from what I've heard the getrag-6 is actually not as strong as the MTX-75 and I wonder about the clutch also. Anyone know about these things. and here... http://www.teamtreo.com/focus-power/view.php?showme=Home that is where http://www.focus-power.com is for right now, apparently they had a bit of a web registration issue thing. Regardless you can get an idea from there. Again good luck, many people have tried and failed. Part of the reason there are so few FI kits on the market for the focus.



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 Posted: Wed Dec 1st, 2004 08:48 pm
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see I have heard the opposite from the mechanics about the trannies and the clutch... According to most SVT certified mechanics that i have talked to the clutch is indestructable...but who really knows...I have already put mine through hell...I am going to talk to the mechanic at the garage tonight and see what he can do about the tuning part of it...it may cost me a bit because he can't really legally tune the computer to where I want it but you never know...that and i have just obtained a sponsor for 12,000 a year...so hopefully i can find some good resources...thanks for the help man... every other site i seem to step on peoples toes about this subject



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 Posted: Thu Dec 2nd, 2004 01:43 pm
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nah, no toes to step on here, we just don't want to see people go blindly into something without knowing the potential pit-falls. I've heard horror stories about blown engines on bad turbo kit builds among other things. Check into the tranny and clutch scenario. I think alot of people assume that the clutch and tranny in the SVT is stronger since the SVT has more power to start with, but the biggest difference really is that the getrag-6 in the SVT is a 6-speed gearbox, while the MTX-75 is a 5 speed. Like I said, I've heard this, and read it somewhere (damned if I can find it now) but it's at least one more thing for your look into just to be safe.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 2nd, 2004 02:39 pm
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The turbo kit I have uses a custom T3 Super 60 turbo and I make about 200TQ.

The T3 also spools pretty fast, it will spool alittle faster once I get my 3" exhaust on.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 2nd, 2004 04:31 pm
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^ Isn't your car a zx3... you have way more options with that car for aftermarket support than i can even think of



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 Posted: Sat Dec 4th, 2004 02:21 am
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SVTF clutch...sucks balls. tranny however, has puttin up with some abuse on the track in my early racing days, and has had no problems. i dont know how many miles you have on your car, or if you even have the problem clutch a lot of SVTFs have, but jus be careful you dont have the TSB ridden clutch in doing something like youve got planned. if you do, the newest number is 04-21-19 (Johnny...in case yo udidnt have it) released sometime in October.

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