yes the svt has the 21mm diameter bar. after seeing the difference in the front bar, i will be looking into the rear (that is, after i save a few pennies first)
jhimm wrote: zx3_rex wrote: A rear sway bar will be more noticable than a rear strut bar, but both together will give the focus a nice tight rear end.
*giggles like an 8th grader*
HAHAHA... All i know is with my front a rear strut bars... I defintly notice a difference. Some people cant afford the sway bars so if they are willing to settle for a little less stiffness, then definatly go this route!
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03ChromeChica wrote: All i know is with my front a rear strut bars... I defintly notice a difference. Some people cant afford the sway bars so if they are willing to settle for a little less stiffness, then definatly go this route!
i can't afford to loose the hatch space
with that rear strut brace wedged in there.
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The nice thing about our cars is that the front sway bar really doesn't need to be replaced. The size is good, but the rear sway bar could stand to be larger.
jhimm, do you carry alot of stuff with your seats down? The rear bar doesn't take that much room from the rear. If you look at focus sport's site they have a picture of the rear bar in a car.
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zx3_rex wrote: jhimm, do you carry alot of stuff with your seats down? The rear bar doesn't take that much room from the rear. If you look at focus sport's site they have a picture of the rear bar in a car.
yeah,
i really do.
i'm a musician
and i'm constantly lowering the seats
to pack the thing full of gear.
the bar cuts the available space right down the middle.
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chelly what your describing sounds like trail brake oversteer. these cars will rotate around in a nano second if you trail brake them (trail braking is when you stay on the brakes as you enter a curve, then lift). and if you just stiffen the front with a bar it will be even more prevelant. what you need to do with fwd is stiffen the back more than the front. we run 400 lb springs rear, 28 mm sway bar and shocks set on full firm (spax) with delran bushings. in front we kept stock 2mm bar and bushings, run the gaz struts on half, and 275 lb springs. this has practically eliminated any"push", car is very neutral, can even 4 wheel drift some corners. btw, besides the welded cage stiffing things up, we also have a steeda chrome moly strut bar up front. no clearance issue-but then again the battery is in the right rear of the car.
so is it safe to say gary that upgrading from the stock sedan suspension ( I know this is in the SVT forum but) to the SVT springs and dampers and then installing a 22mm front and 25mm rear sway bar would push the car closer to neutral. Considering the 21 and 21 setup it currently comes with?
garyk wrote: chelly what your describing sounds like trail brake oversteer. these cars will rotate around in a nano second if you trail brake them (trail braking is when you stay on the brakes as you enter a curve, then lift). and if you just stiffen the front with a bar it will be even more prevelant. what you need to do with fwd is stiffen the back more than the front. we run 400 lb springs rear, 28 mm sway bar and shocks set on full firm (spax) with delran bushings. in front we kept stock 2mm bar and bushings, run the gaz struts on half, and 275 lb springs. this has practically eliminated any"push", car is very neutral, can even 4 wheel drift some corners. btw, besides the welded cage stiffing things up, we also have a steeda chrome moly strut bar up front. no clearance issue-but then again the battery is in the right rear of the car.
I'm not sure what else had been done to the vehicle I destroyed, but it was an s2 model and I wasn't even on the brakes when the ass let go. Even made the rwd error of correction due to my long history with rwd cars
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RPIJG wrote: so is it safe to say gary that upgrading from the stock sedan suspension ( I know this is in the SVT forum but) to the SVT springs and dampers and then installing a 22mm front and 25mm rear sway bar would push the car closer to neutral. Considering the 21 and 21 setup it currently comes with?it should. we played around with different components for over a year before i was happy. i think the eibach sway bars are 22 and 25, no? hylands are 21 and 24 i think. but thats the general idea. and my bad i meant to say we have a 21mm not 2mm front bar. and chelly its funny but sometimes it takes just a tad of brake as you start turning , then a lifted throttle to go ass end first. 1st time i tried it with squirt was on a test day at summit point and i ended up in a gravel trap so fast it wasnt funny. another time i was running behind a student to videotape him cause he kept spinning off turn one in the rain. sure enough spun right in front of me and saw why when i played the tape several times for him. was on the brakes for a nanosecond after turning in, then lifted, then got back on gas-and right off the track.
03ChromeChica wrote: I hear your concern. I was really worried my sub box wasnt going to fit once the rear strut brace was installed. But it did.. and I still have room!!
yes,
but if you put the seat down,
the bar goes right through the middle.
(meant to post this like a month ago
and somehow forgot)
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I have the fill SVTf suspension (spring & struts) and the eiback rfont and rear sway bars along with all urithane bushings. The only bushingins that are stock rubber is the front of the rear trailing arm (couldn't figure out how to put the oval bar through the round hole)
the car is totally differant nor and I can take some decent corners at decent speeds although I have not really pushed it.
I have to agree with Chelly on the easy rotation of the focus. About a year after I got my car, some jackass was tailgating me in a VW fox, so I thought I would show him up. I was going about 80 down exit 9N in Hooksett, NH. For those of you who don't know this exit, it makes a sharp right, then left, then another right. Well I made it thruogh the first right hander easily, then on the left turn, the car went sideways faster than I have ever experienced before. I went sideways 3 or 4 times trying to save it, and finally did, but I learned my leson rather quickly after this. I think I might have let up on the gas just a little bit, but enough to transfer weight off of the rear end enough to spin me. After all of this happened, I look in the rear view mirror, and the guy in the fox is giving me the thumbs up. Jackass. I guess I know a little about agressive driving after all. Hehe!
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gr33nlemon wrote: I have to agree with Chelly on the easy rotation of the focus. About a year after I got my car, some jackass was tailgating me in a VW fox, so I thought I would show him up. I was going about 80 down exit 9N in Hooksett, NH.
if you have to go 80mph through a jug-handle
to make the car kick out
i'd hardly call that "easy rotation"
but maybe i'm a pansy.
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That was just the worst case. It's happened to me more than once, but I know how to handle the situation when it arises. So I guess it's no longer a situation, and more of a personality trait of my car.
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I used to have the one from Focus Sport. But got mine from http://www.newedgeperformance.com from Tony D. I do not care what everyone else says about these, I could tell the difference when I nailed corners. There was a hugh difference to having this on vs. not having it on. Mmmm, may have to order another one and get the one for the back end as well.
Jackass. I guess I know a little about agressive driving after all. Hehe!
