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 Posted: Mon Jan 9th, 2006 11:30 am
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what turbo's do they have for my SVT Focus need to pick one by march or april. Poerworks maxs me out at 250 turbo can get way more i atleast want 300.I don't like the placing of the airfilter of the focus-power because if there is a flood i'm screwed and gude well its gude enough said.



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 Posted: Mon Jan 9th, 2006 04:28 pm
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Hmm I was gonna suggest Focus-Power, but I guess that's a no-go...



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 Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 06:27 pm
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The Roush kit has an air filter that is located in the engine bay, it is about the same price as the Focus-power kit.  That is the only other turbo kit I would consider, I'm not sure if they have a kit for the svtf though.  I have Tom's kit on my car and the air filter is pretty high up, if you have water up to the air filter you have other problems than hydrolock.  Even with a turbo you will be hard pressed to make 300whp with the stock block, that is for very long anyway.



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 Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2006 01:25 pm
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you got the full kit???

 



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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2006 04:36 pm
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Yes, I have the full kit.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2006 05:28 pm
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whats the numbers you running



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 Posted: Wed Feb 8th, 2006 09:26 pm
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215hp & 215tq to the wheels at 7.5 psi.  This past summer I installed a ebc and ran 9psi.  With 9psi I would guess about 230whp & 230tq.  That 9 psi number is just a guess though, all I know is that I roasted srt4's all summer.



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 Posted: Thu Feb 9th, 2006 09:41 pm
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good shit i may looking at using a zx3 kit and fabing the pipes to fit the svt because i hear there the only thing thats different.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2006 05:06 pm
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yes and no, from my understanding of a "how a  turbine works" website i found, when you mess with piping sizes you lose power and obviously the more changing of piping you do, the more fittings you possibly run into, the more fittings, the more chances at vacuum leaks which could possibly lead to worse problems than spending the money on the right tubing and pipework.  the piping changes dont result in huge losses obviously, on a 2.0 small application, but it looks like you are looking for the most you can get.  like t3-rex mentioned, the block alone wont hold that much power, not this car.  look into the WRC blocks, pistons and rings all those happy-go-lucky-expensive parts...i dont know how to equate it and figure it out, but im sure by upping the bore and stroke and changing compression ratios, with a different block you may be able to pass 300...tom at fous-power would be able to tell you, he's done enough turbo work on the focus

i dont know how much youre looking to spend but this kit would the route you might want to look into for bigger power..
http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=Stroker_Short_Block

dont get my wrong, im no mechanical genious/know-it-all, this is just my ;2cents from what i have read



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2006 05:17 pm
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There are many turbo svtf with built engines that run in the 300whp range.  The CGI blocks arn't worth the cash, with a built engine, and a good tune you could see 275-300whp.  With fuel system upgrades(fuel cell, return fuel system) you are good for 300++whp.  There is a cat on another site who has Tom's kit, built engine, fuel system and is planning on getting the 2.3l stroker kit.  That should be one sick svtf.



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 Posted: Fri Feb 10th, 2006 07:50 pm
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I was reading on that



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 Posted: Mon Apr 10th, 2006 11:25 pm
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hey. im new on this site. i also have an svt. its a 2003. i havent done anything much to it yet. i keep going back and forth between a turbo or a supercharger. has anyone done a supercharged svt yet? :driv

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 Posted: Tue Apr 11th, 2006 02:50 pm
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I've seen alot of SVT forced inductioned. Go SC its the best thing in my opinion.



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 Posted: Tue Apr 11th, 2006 05:39 pm
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Why would a sc be the best? is it a reliability issue or cost or something else?

 

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 Posted: Wed Apr 12th, 2006 01:32 pm
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cost is alot cheaper  depending on what kit of course. you can get alot more power out of the turbo but i've seen alot of focus turbo kit put together good but also alot of motor get blown from bad tuning if i went turbo i'd go focus-power but thats 6000 dollars for the same price you could get a procharger SC kit with the BBK kit and buy a few more parts. plus it depends on what your looking for instant power is the SC of course. plus SC are less strain on the engine and i don't care what anyone says i've seen alot more problems with Turbo charged cars then SC cars.but its all my opinion if you rather go for the turbo grab it.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 13th, 2006 11:42 pm
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If you are going the SC route get the Powerworks kit, good shit.  Yes, turbo cars can have more problems but if you get a good tune they will be as reliable as any tuned car.  Mines a daliy driver and I have had zero problems in the past 2 years my car has been turbo'ed.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 14th, 2006 12:12 pm
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I do have to disagree its on more then just the tune. alot of things if its put togther correctly what parts you mix if your going custom. what your not upgrading and what you are. If i went with a SC kit it would be either Powerworks or Porcharger also. I agree that powerworks gives great numbers on the horse side and the torque side.



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 Posted: Sun Feb 18th, 2007 10:12 am
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granted i'm new, but i'd like to throw a few things out for you guys...there seems to be a bit of a debate on which type of forced induction will net more power, and maintain reliability...there is no single answer, but all things being equal, a turbo will always net more performance. granted, with such high compression, there is not a whole lot of room for error, but like anything else, it can be done. taking the stock compression into comsideration, you can't theoretically run alot of boost without running race gas.

You can make an awful lot of power from a 2L. just look at whats out there. quite a bit of your max power is decided by the design of the motor, and the strength of the block. for example a 6 bolt 4G63T can support 500WHP+ on a stock block.

Supercharger systems are alot more straight forward than turbo kits, but a turbo will almost always be more efficient. it all depends on your level of knowledge in tuning. more boost does not always equal more power.

Personally, i intend on supercharging. it will make for a more fun DD primarily due to the available increase in low to midrange torque. the boost curve is way more linear, and more consistent. you will get boost based on rpm, whereas turbos are based on exhaust pressures, which are not always present at any given RPM.

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