I cut & pasted a letter so EVERYONE can e-mail the Lt. Gov. of Ontario. All you have to do is sign your name & e- mail it to:
ltgov@gov.on.ca
PLEASE EVERYONE TAKE ACTION!!!!!
Lieutenant Governor of Ontario
The Hon. James K. Bartleman
Queen's Park
Toronto, Ontario
M7A 1A1
Your Honour,
I respectfully ask that you do not provide royal assent for Bill 132. Very clearly, this bill does not have the support of the major stakeholders nor does it have the support of the majority of the citizens of Ontario. In blatant disregard of the public hearings and the sizeable evidence presented against breed specific legislation, the Liberal Party has chosen to ignore the will of the people. The bill itself, and the Liberals' actions, are slaps in the face of democracy. In short, what we have is an unparalleled perversion of power. It is within your power to halt this atrocity and I respectfully urge you to do so.
What's wrong with Bill 132:
* Pit bulls are NOT high on biting statistics. Most bites come from other breeds and crosses i.e.: the vast majority of pit bulls are well-behaved canine citizens.
* Human and animal-directed aggression in pit bulls is a learned behavior, not a genetic predisposition of the breed.
* Although pit bulls and similar dogs with owners are grandfathered in this bill, all others face either euthanasia in shelters or a life in laboratory research. Although technically these dogs can be re-homed outside the province, the chances of this for the vast majority are small (rescue groups have a hard enough time finding local homes for any breed, much less homes that are far away and cannot be screened etc.).
* It is impossible to accurately identify a "pit bull" as there is major controversy whether this dog is even an actual breed. Even if it were, these dogs are often mistaken for other, similar breeds. Cross breeds that look like pit bulls could very easily be something else (just one example: boxer/lab cross).
* The proof of burden is on the owner to identify his or her unregistered dog, proving that the animal is NOT a pit bull. Outside of papered, registered breeds this proof is an impossibility (no genetic test, no proven methods exist even with canine "experts").
* The reverse onus (burden of proof) in this bill goes against the constitution. It does not follow "innocent until proven guilty."
* The "menacing clause" within Bill 132 is badly composed and ridiculously vague. Any dog (of ANY breed or cross) that is accused of "menacing" behavior, although menacing is not clearly defined (examples: by a disgruntled neighbor, ex-boyfriend, a person afraid of dogs etc.), can be seized from their home, even while the owner is away. This section of the bill puts ALL DOGS in Ontario in grave danger. Potential for misuse (intentional or unintentional) is there.
Respectfully,
(your name here)
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THAT'S SOOO WRONG...pitbulls are not bad dogs....they will only be mean if you train them to be mean...i think that it's stupid that trying to ban Pit Bulls.....Pit Bulls and Bulldogs are my favorite dogs, so i'm letting you know 03 white zx3 that i did send an e-mail with that letter....that's just wrong...trying to ban pitbulls...
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They ain't bad dogs, they just have some qualities that don't mesh well with each other and timid humans. Like my neighbors who are now regretting they didn't listen to me before they got their cute little black and white pit. That thing is HUGE and has the energy of 3 normal dogs and still has those needle like fangs and claws. She's a cute dog but its hard to give her the attention she needs. That, and she rolls in her own COW sized crap.
Letter sent. There's a city in RI where any pit or rottie needs to be registered with the city and the owner must take out (sometimes expensive) pet insurance on the dog in case it hurts someone. I think it's real unfair because any dog could harm someone, these 2 breeds are no worse or better dependind on their breeding and training. Even a dog with no history would need a policy or else if you're found in violation your dog is taken away... it's bogus.
Thank you for those who sent a letter. I don't live in Ontario, but Breed Specific Legislation really gets to me.
I have a little girl pittie who's been just as much of a handful as any other dog (like our lab) would be/is. I couldn't imagine the day where something like that passed in our city.
____________________ "Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either, just fuck off and leave me alone. "
That law is totaly wrong. I hate crap like that. Its just people who dont understand.
I guess in Ontario there have been some very high profile cases that have just scared the crap out of everyone thus, the law. Its rediculous. The govt needs to go after the people makin these dogs bad. the ones that are training them to fight. The people need to be punished, not the dogs!!
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You know, I have personal experience with this matter in a way. I TOTALLY disagree with the fact that pit bulls are automatically assumed to have a genetic predispostion to attacking people or biting them.
I can tell you from personal experience that I think that is just wrong to assume that. As a young kid we had a pit bull that was the most gentle thing in the world. Just as nice and as much a fun loving dog as any we ever had, and we had a boxer as well later on.
Well this pit bull one day bit me, in the face and pierced through my right cheek to the point of needing a lot of attention. I still have a slight scar from it that is not as noticeable as it once was. Now, having said that, it was not the dogs fault. I was sitting in the yard with another small dog we had (We had two at the time, the pit bull and the smaller dog that I cannot recall what it was) and I was playing with some food. I kept teasing the pit bull with the food and he was pretty much okay with that. The dogs were up around me and in my lap. Well the pit bull was trying to get the food I was teasing him with and the smaller dog decided to make a grab for it and the pit bull snapped at the smaller dog and I was in the middle and got bit. Two puncture holes in my cheek. My mom nearly passed out from the sight of it. But it would have never been had I not been teasing the pit bull and I think even with that it would have been okay if not for the smaller dog that invaded his space in an attempt to get at the food himself.
I have never held any ill will against pit bulls even after that. I learned my lesson to not tease the dog and all was well after that. The pit bull had never been before or after that any trouble at all. I just cant accept that that particular breed of dog has anymore disposition to aggressiveness than a Rotweiller or Chow. My uncle bred Rotweillers and they were all very friendly and loveable.
I think we want to blame things on genetics because it relieves us of any personally responsibility, "It wasnt my fault the dog attacked someone, it his nature". I just dont buy it. If the dogs were being taken directly from the wild then maybe I could see some argument for that because they have learned survival instincts. But thats not the case as far as I know. Its ashame they get singled out like that. You might as well do it to all breeds because any of them can be trained to be aggressive.
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Yes, it passed but there is still one final step (who you're supposed to write the letter to). the Royal LIeutenant has to give royal assent to make it official.
Unless that happened yesterday.
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CKA wrote: From what I heard it did happen yesterday.
that's really too bad there are going to be so many dogs losing their lives due to the ignorance of so many people.
It makes me want to drive up to Canada and bring back as many pitties as I can fit.
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03 white zx3 wrote: CKA wrote: From what I heard it did happen yesterday.
that's really too bad there are going to be so many dogs losing their lives due to the ignorance of so many people.
It makes me want to drive up to Canada and bring back as many pitties as I can fit. I know, but as I was telling someone else earlier, what we can do is teach our children and family all about how animals are not mean at heart. And they do, do things for a reason. And hope that maybe, just maybe this ignorance will stop.
I could talk until I turned blue and there are still people I know who wouldn't even come to my house because of my pittie.
A very very good friend of mine has only been to my house once since we adopted her (I think 7 months ago) and that was only because her daughter is my daughter's best friend and she came to her birthday party. The mom would not leave her daughter alone with me, even with Brutus kenneled or in the back yard. So when she was sitting in the same room as the poor dog in the kennel and the girls were off playing, I let Brutus out and she tried giving my friend kisses. She admitted she isn't such a bad dog (and that she looks more lab than pittie) but she still doesn't trust her.
sighs.
____________________ "Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either, just fuck off and leave me alone. "
Thanks to those that makes these dogs turn on other dogs and humans, they all get the bad rep. I was once bitten by a pit before, lost trust for a bit, but it depends the pit. Like my cousins pit, it's a great dog around people and never tried to go against a human. So I don't held nothing against a pit, but many people just train them to attack I won't go near them here unless the owners confirm it to be a great pet. But yea everyone tend to follow their smart beliefs.
CKA wrote: I know, but as I was telling someone else earlier, what we can do is teach our children and family all about how animals are not mean at heart.
You might want to speak to Siegfreid & Roy about that.
My own belief regarding breeds/types of animals is that it's a combination of nurture and nature. Does this mean that I believe that certain breeds of dogs are genetically predisposed to aggressiveness? Yes, I do. I also believe that these certain breeds of dogs can make good safe & gentle pets if socialized in the best possible way.
Any dog can be dangerous & even if they're quite small, can inflict surprisingly serious injuries. I don't believe that any particular breed should be banned, or their owners punished by taxes or fines, or punitive fees for ownership. I do think that if you own a breed that has a reputation for instability, that you have to be a particularly socially responsible owner.
As a father and a grandfather, I can tell you this; if my neighbors had a dog that was not tied or fenced, I'd feel one hell of a lot better about my grandkids playing in the yard if the dog was a Golden Retriever than if it was a Staffordshire Terrier.
Please don't misunderstand me here. I'm a dog owner. I love dogs. I like and enjoy all breeds. I just think it's important to recognize them for what they (potentially) are. And yes, I know that many people can site anecdotal records telling me how gentle & loving their "butch breeds" pets are. I believe you. I also know that Bassett Hounds & Poodles have seriously bitten & harmed people. I'm just saying you have to look at the over-all statistics on which breeds are likely to have aggressive tendencies. I also remember Sigfreid & Roy saying how gentle & loving their tigers are. Those headcases are still saying that!
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You guys on MFF know that my pittie hasn't been a saint... but neither has my lab.
Quite honestly I do not trust any dog that I do not know well. If my neighbors dog was not tied up or fenced in there's not way in hell I'd allow my daughter to be outside (if I did not know the dog).
And I think they're called "bully breeds" How much of a bully does this one look to you? (the one on the right is the pittie, on the left is the lab).
____________________ "Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me either, just fuck off and leave me alone. "
that's really too bad there are going to be so many dogs losing their lives due to the ignorance of so many people.
I know, but as I was telling someone else earlier, what we can do is teach our children and family all about how animals are not mean at heart. And they do, do things for a reason. And hope that maybe, just maybe this ignorance will stop. 
How much of a bully does this one look to you? (the one on the right is the pittie, on the left is the lab).