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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2004 04:02 am
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anyone try a throttle body spacer yet and if so they ant good

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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2004 04:33 am
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I heard it was a gimmick of some sort, along the lines of the "Tornado" thingy. But I'd wait for more responses before gettin it ;)



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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2004 11:10 am
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I've seen em around, what exactly is the point of them??



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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2004 12:51 pm
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I've heard alot about them, but nothing on if they work on the Focus.  Most people say they've used it on their V8's and such and they worked on those.

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 Posted: Fri Aug 13th, 2004 03:34 pm
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As far as I know there is no advantage to them.  It has been discussed at other sites and there is never any positive feed back.



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 Posted: Mon Aug 16th, 2004 08:02 pm
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Gimic.



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 Posted: Mon Aug 16th, 2004 11:57 pm
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I can tell you from personal experience, do not get one.  For a carbuerated motor, they can work wonders, but do absolutely nothing for a fuel injected motor.  They are a total waste of money on a fuel injected motor.



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 Posted: Thu Dec 2nd, 2004 12:01 am
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My best friend had a sierra and got a tornado.  They don't help in performance but give you better gas mileage without hurting your performance.

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 Posted: Wed Dec 22nd, 2004 06:08 am
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My buddy just put one on his Integra GSR and I've driven it before and after the install.  My opinion is more throttle response but only if there is an after market intake installed.  I've also driven a Civic with one installed and I noticed a bit more.  For best results, install a 65mm throttle body and a cold air intake before getting a throttle body space.  Sounds like a turbo without the blow off valve.

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 Posted: Wed Dec 22nd, 2004 03:02 pm
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I think that the throry behind these TB spacers is that in effect, it will make the intake runners longer, therefore you will get more top end out of them. Also, some, if not all, have a swirl pattern built into them to gve the intake air a "swirling" motion creating faster intake speeds therefore better throttle response and a more complete burn. Thats my understanding of it anyway. I say if you can get one at a REALLY cheap price, try it, it's not gonna hurt anything, and you can always take it out. But make sure that if you try it, let us know of any differences you see or feel.:driv



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 Posted: Sun Jan 15th, 2006 02:20 am
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It spins your air so that It mixxes better with you fuel or something like that...My friend has one on this 03 civic Is sounds pretty cooland but the gain Isn't much maybe 1hp or so...

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 Posted: Sun Jan 15th, 2006 02:23 am
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     Posted: Sun Jan 15th, 2006 08:13 pm
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    SyntheticShield wrote: I can tell you from personal experience, do not get one.  For a carbuerated motor, they can work wonders, but do absolutely nothing for a fuel injected motor.  They are a total waste of money on a fuel injected motor.
    Word.

    The idea is that a longer intake total length (from filter to valve) increases power by increasing air velocity. We already have long rnough total intake lengths.



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     Posted: Thu Feb 2nd, 2006 05:25 am
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    The other main idea is that it works much better on metal intake manifolds and metal throttle bodies, by seperating them with an insulating material you reduce the intake charge temperature as well as slightly lengthening the intake, so you make the intake charge a little cooler and you gain a little performance.

    But since SVTf's have plastic intakes, this would not benefit it much if at all.



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     Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2006 06:17 pm
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    "The other main idea is that it works much better on metal intake manifolds and metal throttle bodies, by seperating them with an insulating material you reduce the intake charge temperature as well as slightly lengthening the intake, so you make the intake charge a little cooler and you gain a little performance.

    But since SVTf's have plastic intakes, this would not benefit it much if at all."



    This I will agree with.  First, look at the intake manifold on the Focus.  Im not sure about the Duratech's but the Zetecs have a 'U' shaped manifold, meaning the air comes in, through the throttle body DOWN the manifold then back up into the cylinders.  A real strange way to do it in my opinion, but the SVT takes advantage of it with its dual runners.

    Secondly with the Focus, as HTPerformance mentioned, having plastic intakes and manifolds, its not affected by heat in the way most are.

    Now, having said that, I do have a spacer on the GTP.  Why?  'Cause I have a metal intake (supercharger) in which a metal throttle body is mounted to.  Furthermore, engine coolant is run through (or around depending on how you look at it) the throttle body.

    After making a few 'test' runs I tried grabbing that throttle body.  I would have sooner stuck my hand in acid than try and grab it again.  So I got a spacer, not for any added air flow, but to isolate the throttle body from the supercharger and reduce the inlet temps.  Perhaps not significantly, but every little bit helps when you're trying to reduce knock retard and reducing inlet temps does help that out.  I will say this, after installing the spacer, I can grab the throttle body now.

    There was a test done somewhere (I dont have the link anymore unfortunately) where they used thermal imaging to show the difference and use of the spacer reduced the temps, externally anyway, by some 40 - 50 degrees.  Thats significant.  While that may not translate to the same reduction in inlet temps, it does carry over to some degree and as mentioned, every little bit helps.



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