So ive been browsing the boards and how-to's for quite some time now and also completed my search for a way to remove my governer, noticed a small clip of where it is, but am still completely stupified of where it truly is.
My governer also kicks in around 108-109mph, and trust me.....i dislike it so much...especially being a Ca downhill racer stuck in a 1/4 mi. state I HATE THIS PLACE!
anyways, my buddy told me that he was able to remove the governer of his SE (i think) and since then i have been searching for a way to remove mine and get the speed that i have been desiring for so long.
any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
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I think on the Focus, to negate the govener you have to buy a chip like the Diablo Sport chip. My govenor kicked in around the same yours does. Once I installed the chip, however, I was able to go well beyond that, I tinkered with 130 at one point, didnt quite make it as I ran out of top end unfortunately, but I knew the govener wasnt in play anymore.
A chip will also bump up your rev limiter and change a few other things. In my opinion it was worth the money.
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Yep. I beleve the chip is the only way to go unless you have a friend at ford with a computer hook up and still I am not sure if you can take it out at the PCM level. Chip will be easiest. Just remember to get tires rated for the speed you want to go. The stock ones are rated at 120mph(at least mine were)
the signal wire from the ecu to the speedo can be toggled. It's illegal and dangerous and should not ever be done. that being said, if you have a toggle inline, you can just simply turn off the signal, the car has no speedo and voila, no governor. I haven't been under the dash on my car in quite some time, and couldn't begin to tell you where to look, if you're any good at reading diagrams you can find it on your wiring diagrams in the manual.
One reason it's illegal, is that you are not supposed to go that fast, another is because mileage is not racked up during the time the speedo is disabled. I've been in a race where 108 was quickly approaching, turned it off, and kept going to who knows how fast. At that point, you're speeding, so it really doesnt matter if you know how fast it is
Another reason this is a bad idea, is that the car in oem form cannot stop, turn, or handle much faster than 108. It is very dangerous. I would tell you to not ever do this unless you have upgraded tires, brakes and suspension at least, and to always use your car in safe manners in controlled conditions. haha did i cover all the pc lingo?
Ya, unless you're planning on racing your car I don't see any need to disable it either.
Granted, I think all of us here have hit the limiter and felt the car cut, but I wouldn't do it again. Not after loosing my first focus.
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Ya, unless you're planning on racing your car I don't see any need to disable it either.
Granted, I think all of us here have hit the limiter and felt the car cut, but I wouldn't do it again. Not after loosing my first focus.
Umm... maybe you missed this part of the first post (unless I'm reading into it too much)
"My governer also kicks in around 108-109mph, and trust me.....i dislike it so much...especially being a Ca downhill racer stuck in a 1/4 mi. state I HATE THIS PLACE!"
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lol- I have absolutely no clue. I was just guessing it was something to do with cars since it was in a post about governors??
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The focus won't hit 100 in the 1/4 mile(unless its a really really big hill your driving down) unless you have done some modification and a chip would most likely be one of them.
As mentioned, you can find the speedo wire and toggle, which is not recommended, or get the chip, which reprograms your ECU to allow your car to go past the factory limiter.
Also, I think Ford set the speed limiter to 108-110mph due to the tire rating because the SVTF and new ST don't have limiters or are a lot higher than the standard Focus.
Unlawful devices.
No person shall advertise for sale, sell, use or install or cause to be installed, any device which causes an odometer to register any mileage other than the true mileage traveled by a motor vehicle. For purposes of this section, the true mileage traveled by a motor vehicle is that mileage traveled by a motor vehicle as registered by the odometer within the manufacturer's designed tolerance. (62 Del. Laws, c. 255, § 1.)
§ 6404. Unlawful change of mileage.
(a) Unless otherwise provided in § 6406 of this title, no person shall disconnect, reset or alter or cause to be disconnected, reset or altered, the odometer of any motor vehicle.
(b) Unless otherwise provided in § 6406 of this title, no person shall disconnect, reset or alter or cause to be disconnected, reset or altered, the odometer of any motor vehicle with intent to change the number of miles indicated thereon. (62 Del. Laws, c. 255, § 1.)
§ 6405. Possession with intent to defraud.
No person shall, with intent to defraud, possess a motor vehicle knowing that the odometer of such vehicle is disconnected or nonfunctional. (62 Del. Laws, c. 255, § 1.)
§ 6406. Lawful service, repair or replacement.
(a) Nothing in this chapter shall prevent the service, repair or replacement of an odometer, provided the mileage indicated thereon remains the same as before the service, repair or replacement. Where the odometer is incapable of registering the same mileage as before such service, repair or replacement, the odometer shall be adjusted to read 0 and a notice in writing shall be attached to the left door frame of the vehicle by the owner or the owner's agent specifying the mileage prior to repair or replacement of the odometer and the date on which it was repaired or replaced.
(b)(1) No person shall fail to adjust an odometer or affix a notice regarding such adjustment as required pursuant to subsection (a) of this section.
(2) No person shall, with intent to defraud, remove or alter any notice affixed to a motor vehicle pursuant to subsection (a) of this section. (62 Del. Laws, c. 255, § 1; 70 Del. Laws, c. 186, § 1.)
These are from Delaware but I'm sure most states follow suit.
I'd have to say though, in the case of my mr2, don't nobody refer to the odometer for the correct mileage. The whole dash including the gauge cluster used to be in a different car and the drivetrains been in 2 different cars. Its a law that doesn't always apply. What makes up the car? In reality its just the vin plates since everything else can be changed.
Captain J wrote: I'd have to say though, in the case of my mr2, don't nobody refer to the odometer for the correct mileage. The whole dash including the gauge cluster used to be in a different car and the drivetrains been in 2 different cars. Its a law that doesn't always apply. What makes up the car? In reality its just the vin plates since everything else can be changed.
The only time the law doesn't apply is when the car is over 10 years old (at least in Wisconsin).
Both of our Civics, we could only tell you the true mileage (on one of the bodies only) on one of them. The other one has a jdm cluster in it, km instead of mph, both have different engines etc.But the insurance guy still wants to know how many miles the car actualy has on it.
although I don't know if what I just said made any sense.
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Chelly03PZEV wrote: What is the definition of a "CA downhill racer stuck in a 1/4 mile state"?
Isn't that like snowboarding/longboarding or bikes or something?
what was meant by this is that im originally from California, and an avid downhill mountain racer who has been slapped in a state (Texas) of people who like to do nothing more than put everything they can into their car, and push everything into a 1/4 mile race, and never worry about weight balance, proper shifting, entrance and exiting speed when coming into a turn, and everything else that applies to racing the mountain.
guess i should have explained more the first time
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I don't think the speed limiter is that big of a deal, there are very few times that I can think of that I would need to push the car over 108. I however do have the SCT chip but I never bought it for the purpose of removing the speed limiter it was bought more for the benifit of advancing the timing. Like other people have said on this thread the only ways to defet the speed limiter is to reflash the ECU or buy an after market chip. You can mess with the speedo to if you want but how are you going to tell how fast your going if it doesn't work? To much work to make the car go another 20 mph. The stock setup is not designed to handle at speeds past 108 that's what the governer is there for. Even with my new tires and suspension mods the car doesn't feel real safe at those speeds. The only way I would try an push it would be on a closed track set up for high speeds. All it takes to mess up at those speeds is a small bump and it's all over. And for a Focus to hit 100+mph in a 1/4 mile there would need to be major work done far past bolt ons and a chip. LOL Even with FI I think most of the 1/4 mile speeds are in the mid 90's
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Okay, I dont know how that happened.
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