Well, as days go, my Thursday was more or less the norm...go to work, work, go home, dinner, tv and bed...well, not exactly
My father called me @ 7:10pm last night 7/21/05 and told me 'something horrible has happened, but it's not something that effects the family directly.'
Well, here I am thinking..ok, not my family so that's ok...what's up?
Many of you know that I'm a kidney transplant patient and my youngest brother Tim was my most recent donor.
Well, my little brother used to spend time with what I'd call an 'unsavory crowd' of kids growing up, but ended up doing very well for himself. Married, owns his own business and some rental properties. He's given me a beautiful neice, who just turned 2 on Wednesday.
Well, Wednesday, my brother found one of his longtime friends dead Wednesday by a self inflicted shotgun wound to the head.
Tim & the young man's brother found this 28 year old in the woods near my house (where I grew up in South Portland, ME) dead.
My heart broke for my brother because this has got to be the worst or one of the worst things you could possibly try to have to deal with when you're not in the profession of dealing with death and medical situations like this. He did lean down to check for a pulse though...There's a long drawn out story to it, but i"m just not in the frame of mind to deal right now.
Don't fucking kill yourself! Just look at this story and think of the damage you're doing to everyone who cares about you!? If you're upset, or need help...get it...hell call me, e-mail me, something and I'll do what I can!
Now, my little girl (niece) has a Birthday scarred by a freind's suicide. How hard is that going to be for her and my brother for the rest of their lives?
I've not seen anything in the news about it, but I don't know if they've made any reports yet.
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I could never get up the nerve to do it, I think. Partly because I'm scared I'd try, not succeed and jsut be miserably hurt/paralyzed... but whatever, at least it's another impediment if it ever crossed my mind.
My old HS teacher used to say about suicide "don't do it, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem". Whatever the problem is, brain chemical imbalance, troubles in life, relationships, anything... can get better if not perfect, with help. Taking your life shouldn't be your answer, it leaves so many people hurt by your death, sometimes more so than different ways of dying
I could never get up the nerve to do it, I think. Partly because I'm scared I'd try, not succeed and jsut be miserably hurt/paralyzed... but whatever, at least it's another impediment if it ever crossed my mind.
My old HS teacher used to say about suicide "don't do it, it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem". Whatever the problem is, brain chemical imbalance, troubles in life, relationships, anything... can get better if not perfect, with help. Taking your life shouldn't be your answer, it leaves so many people hurt by your death, sometimes more so than different ways of dyingI agree.
Well, I can tell you right now the memorial/funeral I went to Yesterday prooved without a doubt that those that commit sucide don't know who and how many people they effect.
The amount of people that showed at this young man's memorial service was incredible. The closer friends and family of the group crated a memorial at the site where he died. It was good to have some help with closure for many.
Just remember, if you're feeling that bad, don't kill yourself, you're hurting so many that care about you. The worst part here is that he'll never really know how many cared and showed up at this funeral.
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Being a person that has actually thought about suicide, cut himself, and basically brought on alot of self-abuse in hopes to relieve my own "problems", I can only echo Chelly's words. DON'T FUCKING DO IT!!!
I managed to snap myself out of it, and get my life (well, pretty much) back in gear with everything. Sure, everyone has their ups and downs, and sometimes, a good combination of downers can surely put a miserable aura on one person, but that is no reason to go and off yourself. I still do have bouts of depression, sometimes its rough, sometimes I take it in stride, but we are all human.
Life's boring. If all my family was to die tomorrow, I'd off myself immediately. You have a responsibility to a certain few people in this world whether you like it or not. Killing myself now would have a worse effect on my family than someone else killing me.
i went through something somewhat similar, but my mother had me basically commited for 3 days for contemplation of suicide.. when i was released, and after i was put on medication i took some time and thought about it.. i then came upon the realization that suicide is the easy way out.. a permanent solution for temporary problems.. there is always going to be someone that has it worse than you.. always.. and because of this, i feel no sympathy for anyone weak enough to commit suicide.. not the nicest thing, but it's how i feel about it..
but don't think that i have no heart or feelings about something as horrible as that.. chelly, my heart goes out to your brother for having to witness and go through a thing like that....
i hope i'm not digging myself into a whole or pissing anyone off by typing what i typed at the begining of this post.. that was not the intent..
People who commit suicide are sick. They have a bonifide illness. The more severe the disease, the more likely they are to harm themselves. It has nothing to do with weakness of character, or taking the easy way out. It's a devastating illness that alters the life of the person who has it, as well as almost everybody that has any contact with them..
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I can easily say I myself struggled with severe depression in highschool and thought about suicide on a daily basis and sat in front of pills ready to off myself. I wasn't sick, mind you I was depressed, but it was for all the wrong reasons. I was allowing shallow minded, materialistic assholes to make me feel like I was worthless and ugly.
I've been through it in my adult years as well. I've thought about just driving off a bridge or into a body of water, but didn't because as James said; "it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem".
Mental illness can manifest itself in many ways and suicidal thoughts can definitely be a part of that illness, but there are times where it is just something someone decided to do because they just couldn't take what life they had anymore. Some people have stronger constitutions than others.
Another example of suicide I have dealt with was with a co-worker back in the 90's when I worked at Maine Medical Center. She was being abused by her husband, severely beaten etc. She ended up in a woman's shelter with her kids and he went to jail.
He, that coward, decided that he couldn't live in jail and face up to the fact that he was a monster who liked to beat on women. He hung himself with his belt in the local county jail and left a note blaming it on her!. Talk about guilt! Now she has to live with that for the rest of her life and her children will have to know that mommy tried to save them by taking them away from daddy, but because daddy blamed it on mommy, have some form of angst one way or another.
Suicide is not a solution to anything.
If anyone on this board ever feels that way I want to hear from you. I won't tell anyone anything and I'll give you a phone number to call me and just talk. I'm here for everyone.
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Mr. Versatile wrote: People who commit suicide are sick. They have a bonifide illness. The more severe the disease, the more likely they are to harm themselves. It has nothing to do with weakness of character, or taking the easy way out. It's a devastating illness that alters the life of the person who has it, as well as almost everybody that has any contact with them..
Not in all cases. There are lot of variables to consider. Too many to just generalize it as a sickness.
Chelly03PZEV wrote: I can easily say I myself struggled with severe depression in highschool and thought about suicide on a daily basis and sat in front of pills ready to off myself. I wasn't sick, mind you I was depressed, but it was for all the wrong reasons. I was allowing shallow minded, materialistic assholes to make me feel like I was worthless and ugly.
I've been through it in my adult years as well. I've thought about just driving off a bridge or into a body of water, but didn't because as James said; "it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem".
Depression IS an illness. There's treatment for it...there are prescription medications for it...there's help for it. One of the chief problems with depression is that many people refuse to believe that it's an illness. The social stigma & pressure to just "snap out of it / pull yourself up by your bootstraps / don't be a coward, etc" is so strong that many never seek treatment. Your statement below is exactly what I'm talking about.
"there are times where it is just something someone decided to do because they just couldn't take what life they had anymore. Some people have stronger constitutions than others."
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