don't really need an alarm but if there's one thats good and reasonably priced i'll take it. I'm kinda just browsing ya know, seeing whats out there before decinding if i want to get one. as for installation, well i dunno yet, i'll have to see if i feel like doing it, j/k if its not too difficult i think i can handle it. thanx for the info
Do you have a digital meter? installation is merely finding the wires and testing them for polarity. does your focus have factory keyless entry? does it have power windows? Ill get you some links.
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audiojunkie wrote: all alarms are the same.....they just put a different plastic case on them.....
Actually your wrong... very wrong.. Before you say a comment like that I suggest you do a little research.
All alarms are not the same at all.. by far.
Here are some examples of good alarms...
Passively armed. That is, it should be require nothing more of the driver than shutting off the motor and removing the ignition key, without complicated setup procedures.
Instant "on" at all openings. That means the alarm should trigger as soon as any door, the hood or the trunk is opened.
Remotely disarmed by a code, instead of by means of a switch or a key. A lock can be picked. A code is harder to break.
Hood lock. Denying a thief access to your engine, battery and siren is a major deterrent.
Back-up battery to prevent a thief from crawling under your car, cutting the car's main battery and killing the engine's electrical system, and, therefore, the alarm system.
Motion detector. The best kinds are the electronic motion detectors that sense the car's spatial attitude at the time the alarm is armed: whether it's on a hill, on uneven ground, etc, (Also least prone to false alarms)
Extras: pressure-sensitive pads in the seats and under carpeting. Glass breakage detectors. Paging systems and air horns. Wheels locks if you own expensive optional wheels.
Good alarms have over 2 billion codes.. and change every second or so... Cheap car alarms run the same codes over and over... making it easy for an expert to take your car...
fokuzsport wrote: audiojunkie wrote: all alarms are the same.....they just put a different plastic case on them.....
Actually your wrong... very wrong.. Before you say a comment like that I suggest you do a little research.
All alarms are not the same at all.. by far.
Here are some examples of good alarms...
Passively armed. That is, it should be require nothing more of the driver than shutting off the motor and removing the ignition key, without complicated setup procedures.
Instant "on" at all openings. That means the alarm should trigger as soon as any door, the hood or the trunk is opened.
Remotely disarmed by a code, instead of by means of a switch or a key. A lock can be picked. A code is harder to break.
Hood lock. Denying a thief access to your engine, battery and siren is a major deterrent.
Back-up battery to prevent a thief from crawling under your car, cutting the car's main battery and killing the engine's electrical system, and, therefore, the alarm system.
Motion detector. The best kinds are the electronic motion detectors that sense the car's spatial attitude at the time the alarm is armed: whether it's on a hill, on uneven ground, etc, (Also least prone to false alarms)
Extras: pressure-sensitive pads in the seats and under carpeting. Glass breakage detectors. Paging systems and air horns. Wheels locks if you own expensive optional wheels.
Good alarms have over 2 billion codes.. and change every second or so... Cheap car alarms run the same codes over and over... making it easy for an expert to take your car...
Look...im not going to get into a pissing contest.....however....all those OPTIONS you mentioned are great but can be added to many different alarms man. The ONLY God Damn thing that could be different between alarms in the code hopping technology. But I was vague in my response I do apologize for that.....a $500 dollar alarm system has a cheaper EXACT duplicate in a different case name on it ......before you come spouting garbage DONT copy and paste some shit off google....let me know when you put an alarm in a Ferrari .
____________________ Captain Morgan and Dr.Pepper are my homies....
audiojunkie wrote: fokuzsport wrote: audiojunkie wrote: all alarms are the same.....they just put a different plastic case on them.....
Actually your wrong... very wrong.. Before you say a comment like that I suggest you do a little research.
All alarms are not the same at all.. by far.
Here are some examples of good alarms...
Passively armed. That is, it should be require nothing more of the driver than shutting off the motor and removing the ignition key, without complicated setup procedures.
Instant "on" at all openings. That means the alarm should trigger as soon as any door, the hood or the trunk is opened.
Remotely disarmed by a code, instead of by means of a switch or a key. A lock can be picked. A code is harder to break.
Hood lock. Denying a thief access to your engine, battery and siren is a major deterrent.
Back-up battery to prevent a thief from crawling under your car, cutting the car's main battery and killing the engine's electrical system, and, therefore, the alarm system.
Motion detector. The best kinds are the electronic motion detectors that sense the car's spatial attitude at the time the alarm is armed: whether it's on a hill, on uneven ground, etc, (Also least prone to false alarms)
Extras: pressure-sensitive pads in the seats and under carpeting. Glass breakage detectors. Paging systems and air horns. Wheels locks if you own expensive optional wheels.
Good alarms have over 2 billion codes.. and change every second or so... Cheap car alarms run the same codes over and over... making it easy for an expert to take your car...
Look...im not going to get into a pissing contest.....however....all those OPTIONS you mentioned are great but can be added to many different alarms man. The ONLY God Damn thing that could be different between alarms in the code hopping technology. But I was vague in my response I do apologize for that.....a $500 dollar alarm system has a cheaper EXACT duplicate in a different case name on it ......before you come spouting garbage DONT copy and paste some shit off google....let me know when you put an alarm in a Ferrari .
Google does wonders asshole... I just think its shitty information when you say that all alarms are alike....
I guess you got the subtle hint that maybe you should do some research.
Last edited on Sun Jan 16th, 2005 03:21 pm by fokuzsport
Ok clown....I typed that without google or anything else....i conceded that i made a VAGUE statement.....but all alarms do the same thing the same way. Its the installer that makes the thing work. Do you install alarms? have you ever been to DEI, or Commando seminars? NO STFU,
Sorry back to your regular scheduled threading
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no kidding...i install alarms...and i can tell you a couple things..
In a way you are both right...the difference between a $100 and a $700 alarm can be night and day...but they both serve the same function...it's mainly the quality of the device that was purchased...they all use relays, and they all have to be armed in some way...the only difference really is if..oh mine is two way and tells me shit that's happening to the car... or turbo timers and shit like that built in... but reallistically speaking you can make both do the same things...it's just that one takes a bit longer to think about when adding options and others are like plug and play units...no brains involved...
but anyway...
a good system that can give you basic stuff like remote start, keyless entry and a descent alarm can run you $300 to $400...I am a big fan of DEI, and Compustar... both are very good units... if you want everything that the unit can do it will cost you upward of $700 installed... and if you want the 2way option or not... it depends on what you really want to use it for and what kind of a crime city or whatever you live in...
oh yeah...and what audiojunkie said about alarms being the same...is primarily true...mainly because they are only sending out elecronics pulses to different units in the car... the only real difference is how they process the information to and from the remote...in other words how they change code...otherwise they serve the same basic function... so you're both right in a sense...anybody have a problem with what i have just said you are welcome to visit me at my house and tell me otherwise...and let's just say that i have the certification to also back this up
Last edited on Sun Jan 23rd, 2005 07:11 am by BlackSVTFoci
I am MECP certified...two months and $9000 worth of training that i am still paying for...i went to mobile dynamics in Tempe, AZ...awesome school for audio and security
Touche'
