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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 12:49 pm
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OK, the Kenwood in my car is now pushing 6 years old and i need something new... i have been looing around and here is what i have found

Pioneer DEH-8600MP


Info: http://www.caraudioexpert.com/productView3.asp?productID=4073

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Pioneer DEH-9600MP


Info:http://www.caraudioexpert.com/productView3.asp?productID=4074

What do you guys thing.... the 2nd one will run me about $100 more than the 1st.. is it really worth it?

Im not running anything fancy... have 2 12"subs running of a clarion... 600watt amp i think and some nakamichi (sp?) fromts running off a kenwood 200watt amp.

Im also lookin for a cap... the car is HURTIN right now... but i know nothing about them... any suggestions on that too

Any help would be great

Thanks :)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 01:30 pm
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I can tell you from personal experience that the first one there is AWESOME! I had it in my car for about a month. The only reason i got rid of it is that it had a bad channel on it causing my front pass speaker to pop and not work. Due to the fact they are discontinuing the model and I bought it at best buy, they didnt have any others and I got a different one.

I havent heard much about the second one, but I love pioneer and im sure you would be happy with whichever model you choose.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 01:37 pm
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I really wish I could afford ICE in my car!

This is the same model I wanted Pokes!

Congrats girlie - I'm jealous :P



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:03 pm
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Chelly03PZEV wrote: I really wish I could afford ICE in my car!

This is the same model I wanted Pokes!

Congrats girlie - I'm jealous :P
I can only get it bc i got my tax return back... i know i should put it in the bank but after supporting the 2 boys and the dog for 2 and a half months, its time to do something for myself :)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:11 pm
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Good Attitude, thats the way to be!



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:14 pm
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for only $100.00 more, I'd definately jump to the 9600, its soo cool looking....... I know thats not a real reason to do that, but eh.....

 

Also, what does "my car is hurtin right now" mean exactly??  what is the issue?

Lights dimming when the bass kicks? something along those lines??

Maybe upgrade your ground & power wires under the hood first.

Caps are basically a power storage device. You wire it in the power line to the sub amp as the subs tend to draw more when they pound.


Power wire from battery to a distro block. then one power wire to the Kenwood amp & one power wire to the cap then to the clarion amp.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:39 pm
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Yea, I have heard that ground wires are a good place to start with that light dimming issue. I should look into it myself.

 



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:50 pm
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OK then, where do i go for ground wires.

I do have the diming lights when the bass kicks in... i also have a horrid alternator whine whenever  i have the stereo is on.... its not very pleasent when you are accelerating as the pitch gets higher the higher your RPMS are.... i dont like that too much... thought maybe the cap would help out a little.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 03:06 pm
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hmm ground wires... someone else on here got them for a good price from someone...

*think*think*think*

i remember now, i believe it was our friend JOAR who got them ( aka Joe)  ;)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 04:22 pm
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Pokes wrote: OK then, where do i go for ground wires.

I do have the diming lights when the bass kicks in... i also have a horrid alternator whine whenever  i have the stereo is on.... its not very pleasent when you are accelerating as the pitch gets higher the higher your RPMS are.... i dont like that too much... thought maybe the cap would help out a little.

 

 

A cap won't help with the altenator whine.

Either, your RCA's & power wires are too close together or your ground point for the amps is not good enough.

1) re run the RCA's away from (as best you can) the power wire.

2) Be sure you have ONE ground point for BOTH amps, preferably away from a factory ground. (I removed the car seat anchor on the driver side & used one of those holes.) Be sure to scrape that ground point to bare metal.

3) oddly enough I can make the bigger ground wires for you. a mear $30.00 for three ground wires & one power wire.

the three grounds attach as follows:

Battery to chassis

Chassis to block

Block to chassis

The power wire attaches

battery to altenator

These are all factory points, no drilling required.

The wires cut to length & are 4 gauge with ring terminals at each end.

Let me know.

 

Ed.

 

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 04:54 pm
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OK... Looks like i have some wiring to look at this weekend :) I think it must be the RCA and the power wire at this point... we shall see :)

And Ed... you have a PM

Now.... just need to find someone to help with wires... who likes me? ;)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:24 pm
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Pokes, Audiojunkie is going to be helping me re run my amp wire and takin a look at my fog light disaster at the g2g next weekend, you might ask him if he would be so kind ;)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:27 pm
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caps dont help with lights dimming...and they CAN get rid of alternator whine...they keep the voltage going to the amp less rippled.....and your ground may be too long on the amp.....but basically ground the headunit where the amps are grounded this will give the signal to the amp the same ground potential as the signal source.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:29 pm
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03ChromeChica wrote: Pokes, Audiojunkie is going to be helping me re run my amp wire and takin a look at my fog light disaster at the g2g next weekend, you might ask him if he would be so kind ;)
Audio is going to be one busy camper doing wiring...he's offered to look at my Euro tails as well.



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:37 pm
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audiojunkie wrote: caps dont help with lights dimming...and they CAN get rid of alternator whine...they keep the voltage going to the amp less rippled.....and your ground may be too long on the amp.....but basically ground the headunit where the amps are grounded this will give the signal to the amp the same ground potential as the signal source.
I have always thought that my amp ground was too long... I think thats how i burnt out the 1st one i had (damn it for not having an internal fuse!!)

OK... so here is what im gonna do
1. Pick a HU (if anyone can help me)
2. Get that groundwire hit and get it in (if anyone can help me)
3. Get a cap to try to even things out (If anyone can help me)
4. Check  Grounds
5. RE-run wires

Goodness... im gonna be a busy bunny... if anyone can help me ;)



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:41 pm
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dont buy a cap.....just shorten your exsisting ground as far as headunits go whats your budget? 

 

Brands I prefer

Eclipse, Alpine, Panasonic, Clarion, pioneer

About that order

What do you want the HU to do?

 



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 05:54 pm
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OK.. no cap for me now :)

I have about $300 i want ot invest at most in the HU.

I definatly have a thing for Pioneer's though. Im most interested in something with a kickass tuner so that i can get some radio in the car with the shorty and something with some clear, crisp sound so that i can enjoy what i have. dont need too much there, just LOVE my clarity :)  Also need it to be satilite radio ready incase i ever decide to go that way in the future (Im really not too picky ;))



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 06:01 pm
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eclipse, panasonic, clarion



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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 06:07 pm
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im confused, why did the search just go down ?

As you know pokes, I have a pioneer, and I have ONLY ever had pioneer. I have satellite, and i have a system. My system sounds damn good in my opinion and i have had great compliments from other people. I do not run my speakers off an amp ( yet) and only my subs are amped. I think you are makin a good choice to go with a pioneer. I would definatly recommend that first unit you are lookin at there. The 8600 was a sweet radio. Get it while you still can.. its goign to be discontinued soon.



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 Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2005 01:02 am
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03ChromeChica wrote: im confused, why did the search just go down ?

if i had to guess i would say becuase of pricing..judging by my price of my Alpine..luckily i know people at tweeter;)



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