Hey everyone. I nearly 100% certain I have the information correct but I thought I would post here to see if anyone is coming to the same conclusion.
I have someone (potential customer) wanting Amsoil for his 2004 Focus w/2.3L engine. Ford says it needs the FL910. Autozone lists the STP3614, Fram PH3614, BOSH 3330, AC-Delco PH53 for that motor which all cross over to an Amsoil SDF57. The Ford FL910 doesnt appear to cross over to anything in Amsoil's line up.
So I was wondering if anyone with the 2.3L motor is running an Amsoil filter and if so, which one? Like I said, Im nearly 100% I have the right filter but I like to double check stuff like this since I have no personal experience with the 2.3L motor.
Rick, Chelly, FX3, anyone? You selling to your customers with the 2.3? What you selling them? Thanks in advance.
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2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it
Well I was gonna change Chelly's oil on Saturday but got busy doing other things and never got around to it. I may do it later in the week but not sure. Maybe this saturday. I got the oil and the SDF 57 filter. Maybe I should pickup a ford filter just in case.
One other thing I want to add is the Lexus IS300 uses the sdf 57 also
Thank you FX3. I was pretty certain it would be a SDF57, but I thought I would check and make sure just so I didnt have any problems. All of Autozones filters available that I could cross reference all crossed to the SDF57 so I felt comfortable with that, but I just dont have any real time experience yet with the 2.3L motor.
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2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it
Yeah, talk about a inventory mess, now I got two types of air filters, two types of oil filters to stock until all this works itself out. Geeeesh. Oh well, those air and oil filters should do an amazing job based on the filtration ability Im reading.
Im eager to put one of their Air Filters on my Grand Prix and see what effect it has on the oil analysis. With that kind of air filtration coupled with the by-pass filter, it should make for some pretty clean oil.
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2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it
I got the AE airfilter on my focus right now(yep they finaly got one for the zetec) and I have seen a slight increase in the 23-25pmg I have been getting but I have also been doing a lottle more highway travel as well.
I got a TS-191 filter on the Grand Prix now, as I did on the Focus. Im going to order a EaA191 cone air filter and I'll put it on when I pull my next oil analysis, that way I can see how well it does.
My theory is that with an oil bypass system capable of removing contaminants down around the 1 micron range and able to pull out water (condensation) and an air filter that is nearly 100% efficient at 2 microns I should see a major reduction in any wear. Theoretically, what is ever left in the oil with the bypass and that air filter should be purely from the breakdown of the oil over time.
I got close to 9000 miles on my oil now and its still clean looking. Some slight discoloration but not much. But I am running some 7 quarts in the oil system so that helps. Im going to get some larger filters and push that closer to 9 qts when Im done. But I got to get some mesh grill inserts for the lower air dam so that junk and stuff doesnt get up in there and tag one of the filters and crack it open.
All of you interested in running amsoil filters (either oil or air) you should find that there are filters available now whereas there was not previously. If you are already using Amsoil filters I highly recommend changing over to the Ea line when its time to change as the numbers on those things are amazing.
____________________ My car is a synner! It uses Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants.
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it
Rochvegas is changing over today to the Ea filter for his 2.3. I'm excited to see how it performs. Mines not due until January. I'll be upgrading to the Series 3000 and the Ea filter.
After tax season I'm going to try and push myself to get the Dual By-pass system installed and see how that pans out. I have to say, the 2.3 is already easy to access the filter in comparison to the Zetec. Just drop under the front and reach in a couple of feet. Boom, smack in the middle!
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After looking over all the data for the Ea line of filters Im pretty much convinced that if you use a by-pass system with an Ea oil filter and an Ea Air filter you are going to have minimized wear as much as possible.
Consider that the by-pass system alone, I believe, has an absolute efficiency around 5 microns and is capable of pulling out sub-micron particles in multi-pass. Now, the new Ea Air filter is nearly 100% absolute efficient in the 2 micron range. The Ea Oil filters are 98% absolute around 15 microns which is INCREDIBLE for a full flow filter. Couple all that together and you have minimized wear in your motor. Most wear in a motor is caused by particles 5 - 10 microns. If you stop particles from getting into your motor in the first place with the air filter, then have a bypass system that can pull out particles smaller than that on a mult-pass you can see the effect it would have. The Ea oil filter will make, in effect, the absolutely best back up/full flow filter you can get. I am VERY impressed with what Amsoil has done with those.
A little insider info, be on the look out for an upgrade in the by-pass filters. Its supposed to be coming but I dont yet know when that will be. Folks, if you got a bypass filter that is already capapble of sub-micron filtration and capable of pulling water/condensation out of your oil and you make it even better, well you can see that we may be on the verge of a fill for life set up.
I personally dont touch the oil or filters until oil analysis tells me. Im running 10W30 right now and I have the bypass system on the Grand Prix and I wont change it until the analysis says its time. Now if they get the improved bypass filters out sometime soon then I will change out the full flow and bypass to upgrade them to the newer Ea line but otherwise I wont be under my car for oil or filter changes until the analysis shows that I need to be.
Ive already got 9000 miles on my oil and its still clean looking. Ive got my first analysis already sent in and should be here either this week or the first of next.
I am VERY bullish on the fact, because Ive seen the data, that it is entirely possible to go 100,000 miles on the oil with a bypass system. The new Ea filters have just solidified that for me. I anticipate, though cant say this factually, that Amsoil will up thier oil change intervals before long particularly so for those with a bypass system. The new Ea oil filters are good for 25,000 miles or one year which means you now only have to get under the car once in a year rather than mid way through with the SDF filters. 5qts of oil plus one filter (using ASL as and example) and you are looking at around $50 for an oil change not including shipping and taxes. I just think that is outstanding.
____________________ My car is a synner! It uses Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants.
2001 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP
It whines a lot, but I like it
