Ok so I have about 2k-2300 miles to decide if i want to switch from my long time and very trusted Mobile1 to amsoil. Ive heard a few people talking out side of TF about this oil and thats what had got my attention and they seam to like it. But being the kind of person that does not depend on just a couple people's thoughts I figured that I'd ask here.
Ive read through a few of the topics but figured that I'd get a better and more direct opinion from those that have used it my starting a post.
Please keep in mind that you could talk lab tests all day and never sway my opinon that amsoil is better, you'd have better luck chatting it up with a tree or a brick wall. Instead I'd like to hear your real life applications and your real life reasons why I should consider changing to Amsoil from M1. And please be honest, This is my baby and i dont mess around with it. I had the dealer drain the motorcraft oil out a put in the stuff that I use before I would accept pick up of the car.
If your wondering why M1? Well I tend to be very hard on my cars and have melted down 3 motors on 3 different oils. Sence I've changed over to M1 ive never had a motor prob whats so ever and my driving habits have not change. I'm also very detailed with oil changes, often changing oil far far before the 3K mark.
I've never used a syn oil and i'm also thinking on making the change over to a Syn oil so any added thought in that would be great too.
I guess it just feels like its time for a change ........
So tell me just why I would want to change from Mobile1 to amsoil.
Thankx, Auto
Last edited on Fri Oct 20th, 2006 03:29 am by auto
I'm the last person to say this on most forums, but we have a whole area (which you've found) dedicated to statistics, users results and testing right here on TeamFocus.
I am also one of the two Amsoil dealers here on TeamFocus.
I've been using Amsoil since 2003 and would never go back, no matter what car I owned, no matter how old, new or any other reason.
My father uses Amsoil in his every day driver and 700hp dragster.
There is a product for every kind of engine you could come at us with from your little 2 stroke push mower all the way up to a big rig and beyond.
Their products speak for themselves, but I'm biased I suppose.
There are several very good synthetics on the market and it comes down to your preference and research.
Hope you'll check out the info in this corner - SyntheticShield has done a LOT of research on his own cars and his client's cars and has posted an enormous amount of details here.
hope it can help you decide!
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Oh I'll definatly be reading up this weekend for sure cause there is ALOT of good stuff in theis section. Just kinda figured that I'd give an open oppertunity for any one that would like to share their personal experiance with this oil.
To be honest from what I've heard about amsoil out side TF, its always been good things! I guess I have my homework for the weekend lol
**Oh and if i do go wih amsoil i'm gonna want to know where i can get one of those decals for my foci lol
Last edited on Fri Oct 20th, 2006 10:21 pm by auto
I started using it in my 01 in 02ish?? when it hit 10K miles. I pur it in my 83 F250 after gettign the motor rebuit but it dosen't go into the yota because I have a problem with leaking oil and having to add 1/2 qt about every gas tank fill-up.
There is an article about a guy in Chicago area with an early 80's F150 with a 302. He switched over to Amsoil early in its life and the truck (when the article was written had 300K miles on it. I know from experience that the 80's Ford V8's (302 & 351) are 175K-200K motors, with proper maintenance. The lower end on my 83 351 went at 150K 2 months after I bough it. Has a 80's bronco and sold it at 180K motor still running strong(or so I thought) but leaking oil out of just about every seal.
From what you just said about your driving habits I would go with the XL75 oil and at least a hastings filter if not the new Ea Filters and change out at 5K miles. Thats just my opinion. We're about to switch Chelly's car from the 1 year 20K miles oil to the normal Amsoil Synthetic oil. I put my car up every winter and I try not to beat on it too bad and iam now running the normal Amsoil synth oil. I think this summer I put 5-7K on the car. It will soo sit for the winter and will be changed out in the spring when I put it back on the road.
Okay, well normally I would be the one with all the stats. I am a fanatic about oil analysis to see how an oil is doing. In fact, it has saved my car already from certain doom. I could give you TONS of stats and proof Amsoil is more than capable of going the distance.
That said, I'll just give you a bit I can pass on. Ive been using Amsoil since the early 90's. It started with a guy convincing me to use one of their foam air filters. I was so freakin impressed with this one product it rolled into me using everything of theirs I could. I later became a dealer I was so impressed with their products.
One test I used to do, with vehicles that had oil temp. gauges was I would have them drive their car around and get it nicely warmed up and not where the gauge was. I would then change their oil and drive around again. Consistently over the vehicles I did this to I would see anywhere from 15 - 20 degree drops in oil temps.
Not to flood you with statistics, but its a fact that if you can nearly double the life of your motor with every 15 - 20 degree drop in engine temps. While the oil temp may not translate into the same drop on the engine temp due to coolant temp regulation, its a start.
Secondly, there is the mileage aspect. However, since you are already using Mobil 1 then you may not see a huge mileage increase since you are already using a synthetic. So I wont elaborate too much on that aspect. It is possible that if you used the Series 2000 or 3000 oil then you may see a small increase over Mobil 1 synthetic.
Next, Amsoil is a complete system for your car. They make the oil, oil filters, air filters and all the lubricants you will need for your car. Mobil does have their oil filters, but even those dont compare to the new Ea line up of Amsoil. I would have to get into statistics to show you the difference, but if you are interested, try to find out what Mobil 1's filter abilities are. Tell me their efficiency rating AND the particle size they are that efficient at. I would be willing to bet you that you will find only one of those number and most likely the efficiency percentage. Amsoil oil filters are 98.7% efficient at 15 microns (98.7% being known in the industry as absolute efficiency).
Next, go get an Amsoil data sheet that shows all the tests that were run on an Amsoil product (I'll send you one or show you where to get it if you like), then go to Mobil and try and get all the same information and compare the two. I believe, provided you can get the info on Mobil 1, that you'll see the difference.
Amsoil is VERY open about the testing they have run, I have even seen them make comparisons in public literature where they show you even the areas they may not have tested as well as a competing product. While these areas are few and far between it tells me they are being open and honest with their product statements. That says something to me as a consumer, long before I became a dealer.
Next, Amsoil is not content with staying where they are. They are continuously looking to improve their product. Amsoil is a privately held company, so they are not beholden to stock holders. Amsoil makes their products to continue their reputation, not to satisfy shareholder earnings. Amsoil has been around since 1972 and while Mobil 1 came out shortly thereafter with their own synthetic to compete with Amsoil even then they quickly removed it due to the misconception it would cost them money. Amsoil, as far as I know, was the ONLY one out there showing, proving to people extended drains were possible, feesable and effective until the early 90's when Castrol came out with their synthetic which even then was not a group IV synthetic if I remember correctly.
Next, go to your local parts store or wherever you buy your oil at and ask them WHY they use the oil they do. Ask them details about the oil, what group oil is it, whats its base stock, whats its additive package like and why it would benefit your car. I will again nearly guarantee you they cant. The advantage of the Amsoil dealer network is that if the dealer has been properly trained and is properly involved with the business they should be able to answer those questions for you. That is a HUGE advantage in my mind because that person is best going to be able to help you get the most out of your vehicle in longevity and protection.
I think I'll leave it there, Ive been long winded already. Suffice it to say, that if you REALLY want to see the difference in the products you are going to have to get into statistics, test info, etc. Because if I pour out Amsoil in a clear jar and Mobil in a clear jar, other than maybe slight color variations in the products you arent going to be able to see the differences, there's just no way. I wont even get into some of the advanced things of Amsoil like their dual remote bypass system which I use and have used even on the Focus I owned.
I keep a lot of info on my website if you want more info. Its doesnt have everything on it yet as it just went through a major rennovation, but there is a lot there. I just recently put my store on line as well I added a FAQ section and Im working on articles and such to add.
I will add this. Who do you think the hardest people to sell to would be? How about Family, friends and co-workers. Well I have all three using Amsoil. In fact, where I work I have among my strongest business growth as peopel that are using it spread the word, not of technical data but their own personal experiences with the products, to other co-workers and such. Family, friends and co-workers are going to be the first, fastest and fiercest critics if you sell them something that doesnt live up to what you say it will do and I have not ONE dissatisfied customer. I also sponsor a local drag bike racer that went from having to change the oil in his race bike every other race to once during the season. Last year he broke the bike down to inspect all the internals after many many 9 second, 140mph runs at the track. There was no noticeable wear. Not entirely scientific, but it shows you the protection these products offer.
Hope that helps.
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It whines a lot, but I like it
I think i'm gonna give it a shot, Ive read through some of the stuff here and have talk with several people that have made the switch too and they are pretty impressed with it.
I thank you all for the info you've provided its helped out. Funny cause alot of people give me crap for being such a pain in the azz when it comes to picking or using oil, lubes or air cleaners in my car. But I'd rather be safe than stuck some where lol
Now i just gotta wait untill its time to change my stuff and get what i need
Just an FYI - I'm doing a large order this weekend and I live near Epping - if you'd like a quote and some product, just let me know and I can take care of it for you this weekend.
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